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If you dive into the program memory, there's GameHistoryData's miningCostRate and miningSpeedScale variables, which are single precision floats.  These are the values I've verified:

{| class="wikitable"
|+ From program memory
|-
! Level Researched  !! miningCostRate !! miningSpeedScale 
|-
| None researched   || 1.0 || 1.0 
|-
| 1                 || 0.93999999761581 || 1.1000000238419
|-
| 2                 || 0.88359999656677 || 1.2000000476837
|-
| 5                 || 0.73390400409698 || 1.5000001192093
|-
| 6                 || 0.68986976146698 || 1.6000001430511
|}

At level 590, your speed will max a blue belt with 1 vein.

You might only need to get to Level 1681 before floating point rounding causes miningCostRate to be 0 because of lack of precision.

In the TechStates array in memory, there are 10,000 level as the max level to the tech.

--[[User:76561198010365021|76561198010365021]] ([[User talk:76561198010365021|talk]]) 23:58, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

== Finite ressources for infinite reseach ==

I've done some math and excel sheets and I've found out, that you only need a limited amound of raw ore veines to get infinite ressources through this "Veins Utilization (Upgrade)", I want to present my thought progress here:

1. As of version 0.8.19 of DSP this upgrade gives -6% ore consumed per research and scales linearly with +4000 Universe matrices

2. The growth of cost is linear, while the reduction of cost is logarithmic therefore the loarithmic wins in long term cost determination

3. I then multiplied universe matrices needed with the current vein consumption factor and thereby found out how many "raw" ressources (depleted from veins) e.g. lvl 6, the first infinite research: 4000 (matrices cost) x 69% (nice)(factor of vein consumption) => 2760 (cost of matrices with 100% vein consumption)

4. Search for limits: 
   4.1 The most expensive research is lvl 21 with a net ore consumption of 17453 Universe matrices if mined at 100% vein consumption
   4.2 Total cost up to that point: 208,275  mining efficency: 26.1% (lvl 20 stat; 25,36% after research is finished)
   4.3 First reseach that is cheaper than the lvl 6 (vein wise ofc): lvl 75 at 2703 net matrics vien consumption, which results in 280,000 total matrices 
   4.4 Total cost of all reseach: after dragging my excel sheet down for quite a while (then adding zeros) I realized that cost would never surpass ~766,522 matrices, meaning you have infinite ressources at that point
   4.5 Calculation of total cost: (I'll only be taking non infinite ones into account(excludes fire ice)) values from DSP Calculator

{| class="wikitable"
|+ Universe Matrices net vein cost
|-
! Ressource  !! One Matric !! 766,522
|-
| Iron                || 29 || 22.23 Mio.
|-
| Copper              || 16 || 12.26 Mio.
|-
| Coal                || 32 || 24.53 Mio.
|-
| Titan               || 17 || 13.03 Mio.
|-
| Stone               || 8  || 6.13 Mio.
|-
| Oil                 || 15 || 11.5 Mio.
|-
| Organic crystal     || 2  || 1.53 Mio.
|-
| Silicon             || 28 || 21.46 Mio.
|}

I'm not 100% certain about these numbers, but I hope my point gets across, also you still need to refine these ressources which will drain a lot of computational power which will be the bottleneck there